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Can humans mate with Chimps, whats the ethical fallout if they can ?

Chimp,
is the common name for the two extant species in the genus Pan.
The better known chimpanzee is Pan troglodytes


i had just read this...

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/living/health/14605259.htm
Late swinging in the evolutionary tree?

Geneticists say early human and chimpanzee ancestors may have interbred even after the two species diverged.

Wonder if this is where the bigfoot and Yeti come from ?

and maybe
our current president as well ?

but seriously,
One has to wonder if it is possible, and was possible over the past few hundereds/thousands/millions of years, if some guy in the backwoods that was a bit lonely, may have tried it.

It would be interesting to take DNA samples from different people
(and from different cultures)
to see if there are more / less  %  of DNA related to chimps.


I wonder if there is any way to prove that there was
a mixing of genes somewhere already !!!

(less than 5 million years ago)
maybe just a few thousand !
maybe just a few hundered !
maybe recently !!!




What about Orangs and other great apes ?

Extremely interesting subject to me.

Is this the dawn of a new genetic finding ?
What if soeone tried it ?
What ethical and social implications does this have ?

Someone at classicalvalues  has this to say...

Well I think it should be pretty clear to everyone who holds that man evolved from apes that

it is possible or at least theoretically possible, to pruduce hybrids of humans

(it might just so happen that no animal close enough to us exists, but that doesn't mean it was not possible that there could have been).

What that goes to show ethically really depends on our notion of human rights and how to deal with vague terms. The creation of a hybrid would pretty much establish "human" as a vague term since you get things of which their humanity can be reasonably disputed.

It would not show that we ARE animals but that we are at least continuous with animals.

We might judge that animals close to our level of intelligence are deserving of some rights, for example.

We might, however, say that actually our notion of "human rights" we apply to all humans out of convenience, not out of genuine reason. In other words, some humans might not actually deserve all the rights we give them but because epistemically, we cannot tell which ones, we grant rights to everyone to ensure that we behave well within the bounds of ethics. Anything that is not entirely human, however, would not come within that protective sphere of rights.


Wow !
Now, im not sure i agree with the point that he tries to make about being animals.
I thought we were animals, didnt know that had to be proven ?
We are just more intelligent, at least from our point of view.
We have skin, bones, DNA, and everyting else other animals have.
We are in the mamal family as a matter of fact.
But the poster does bring up points of ethics that are of interest.

I have to wonder if some sick scientist hasnt tried this already ?
Was he killed by the right wing types ?
Or, maybe a hundered years ago, he would have been killed by the TEMPLARS ?
maybe this is the big secret the church is hiding ?

Not just the fact that we can mate with chimps, but the whole fallout of  what this implies !
Every religion would have to change the way it thinks.
It just wouldnt fit with the foundation of many of the big religions

The more I think about this, the more curious it seems to me,
that this has never been tried by some waco scientists.
This is an obvious question,
and one whos answer could change our society dramatically !

Maybe we could finally throw out the childish fairy tails RELIGION gives us.

Deism  doesnt beleive in religion, but does in a God.
My definition of god, may be somewhat different than other peoples,
but, i guess thats another post...


Oh, by the way....
someone shoot this guy please ?
(relax, just a figure of speach, wouldnt want a martyr now)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3954156199145885147
scary google video

This guy think that Dinosaurs lived with humans in the garden of eden.
a whole 6,000 years ago !
Nothing on earth is older than that.

How did they let this guy teach ?
Are people buying this crap ?
This is going to lead to the downfall of the human race,
not just this guy, but the right wing christian types that support this stuff.
He wants to throw thousands of years of science down the toilet !
Down right dangerous he is, at least to uninformed, and uneducated people

Brad

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9:27 PM - Aug. 25, 2006 - post comment

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